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Thursday September 5th, 2002
Speaker: Advocate Leon Wessels1
Moderator:
Dr. Mahdi Abdul Hadi, Head of PASSIA.
Leon Wessels’ Keynotes:
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“What is appropriate for one country in the light of
its history, is not necessarily appropriate in another country with
a different history. Our final Constitution must now be forged in the
light of our history and on the basis of agreed constitutional principals
which both reflect that history and are part of it”
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Arthur Chaskalson: President of the Constitutional
Court, 17 July 1995.
I had the privilege this morning to
participate and sit in long discussions with lawyers and I attended a press
conference in this hotel2, and I
think the difference between what was happening over there and what I am about
to tell you is that I am talking about history, and the one thing we know for
sure is that people are shy to learn from history. They want to make their own
history and learn by trial and error. I found out that it is a sad event but it
is a very light event. Many of the things that were said there and that
happened there were so comparable to what we are going through.
The international
community declared apartheid a crime against humanity. To put it mildly, the
practice of segregation and apartheid had a tremendous effect on South Africa
and South Africans. I even listened yesterday how colleagues referred to
Apartheid systems and practices in this part of the world. Whether it is fair
to compare or not is not part of my discussion here. But that system had an
effect on South Africans and many South Africans from all persuasions,
regardless of where they came from politically or the type of struggle they
were involved in, have expressed themselves in different ways related to the
impact it had on their lives. The matter was that:
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We did not know our land (thus how effective
apartheid was)
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We did not know our people
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We did not know our history
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We did not know each other.
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We are still grappling with the past. It keeps
haunting us.
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We are working day by day to ensure that we do
not to repeat our mistakes. We are also trying to deal with the vestiges of
Apartheid.
For decades, the
National Party government had a very unfriendly relationship with the rule of
law. The rule of law was regarded as something which was devised in other
countries that people want to impose it on us in order to ensure that the system
changes, and therefore there was a hostility towards the rule of law. It was
argued that judges were not to pronounce on the validity of legislation or to
question the discretions exercised by the executive when they acted in terms of
security legislation. The reasoning behind that was that judges should be above
politics and the ability to overturn parliamentary and executive decisions
would draw these judges into the political arena.
The resultant
encroachment on civil liberties and the vast powers granted to the executive
were born on the basis of the Latin expression salus rei publicae suprima lex (the security of the state is the
highest law). Nothing goes before
the security of the state and the people, and those who are the state and those
who occupy the seats of the executive will determine what is security-related
and what is not. There was never much of a debate beyond this point. Because if
you took the debate further than that, the chances that you would be labeled as
aiding soft on security and/or taking sides with the enemy so to speak, were
real
In many respects,
that victim replied to both sides of the conflict in different ways. To wrap it
up, it is simply to say that it was a good argument in service of authoritarian
rule. Today in South Africa, it is generally accepted that this approach led to
an abuse of power. South Africans were shocked and in many respects, are still
shocked. They feel ashamed by the horror stories told to the Truth and
Reconciliation Commission. It became clear from evidence before the Truth and
Reconciliation Commission that even sharply, probing judges had been willfully
misled in many cases by key security forces personnel. Not surprisingly, some
individuals had done the same to gullible politicians not excessively keen to
ask pointed questions.
In my own way, I had
been aware of things that had caused discomfort in official circles, but
because I did not have the facts to substantiate my suspicions or had lacked
the courage to shout from the rooftops. I have to confess that I only whispered
in the corridors. This, I believe is the accusation that people may level
against many of us in South Africa. We did not confront the reports of
injustices and abuses head-on.
In a lighter frame,
you will not find somebody who ever supported apartheid, and if you do find
someone, they will be by far outnumbered. There are no more living apostles of
apartheid, something just happened and nobody supported the system. It is difficult to understand how the
system was ever sustained. We simply could not confront the reports of
injustices and abuses head-on.
One question kept on
haunting me: When a new dispensation comes about, how would South Africans deal
with the past? Like a philosopher once wrote that “you have to understand the
past and you have to love the future”. So we were all ready to love the future,
but how could we deal with the past? Would we try to speak about it and deal
with it- or would we take the easy option and simply ignore it? You cannot
ignore the past, but you also cannot deal with it in a spirit of emotional
bullying and vengeance.
When the epilogue to
the constitution was finally accepted at a very late stage in the negotiation
process, many of us gave a sigh of relief. The relief we felt was for the fact
that we would have the full truth out in the open without vengeance. The
epilogue was a simple paragraph which stated that under this new dispensation,
there would be Amnesty for those who had committed human rights violations. So
the criteria to be developed was how to deal with those Amnesty applications,
and the reparation for those individuals’ families who had suffered because of
the human rights violations. This, to a large extent started a process of
opening- up the past, of talking about the past, what had happened, and people
getting to know their own history. It gets further momentum to the protest of
accepting a democratic South Africa. A number of senior members of government
and government officials informed me at that stage that they would not have
supported the new constitution if there had not been an agreement about the
process of Amnesty. That process taught us how we had not known our past, how
we had hurt one another, and we realized that the time for healing had arrived.
Those ringing words in the epilogue that provided for the process of uncovering
the whole truth and of granting Amnesty, marked the beginning of a long road to
reconciliation.
Mr. Justice Richard
Justice Goldstone, currently a judge in our constitutional court, but who a
member of the United Nations tribunal investigating human rights violations in
Bosnia-Herzegovina, is on record as having remarked favorably that
South-African Amnesty process was a compromise between collective amnesia
(forgetting the past and moving forward) and Nuremberg-style trials (tribal
persecution).
There are so many
exciting and interesting things happening in the international arena of which
the establishment of the international criminal court is certainly a reality,
and one of the elements in that court is that international jurisdiction could
supercede national jurisdiction if there was not an internal national process
with integrity to withhold international jurisdictions.
Now taking this into
the South African theater, I believe that it is up to the political stature and
the integrity of former President Nelson Mandela and President Thabo Mbeki to
gain international acceptance for the South African process of reconciliation;
to put our past to rest nationally and internationally, but never to be
forgotten, as a reminder that it should never be allowed to happen again.
The idea of a
constitutional state officially became part of the National Party’s rhetoric in
the early Nineties. The building of a new constitution for a democratic South
African society, the establishment of a Constitutional Court and the birth of a
constitutional state, all of this followed soon during and after the elections
of 1994.
The idea of a
constitutional state was foreign to South Africa because we were raised on the
British Model of parliamentary sovereignty and the A.N.C were suspected of
being a group of people that would endorse simple majority rules in which the
Westminster system of parliamentary system would actually favor the argument.
It would not only favor the demographic, it would also favor the argument for
what they had struggled for. But part of the negotiations was the concept of a
constitutional state where certain values underline the whole judiciary of the
whole judicial system regardless of the loyalty of the majority of people
occupying seats in the national assembly of the parliament, which is something
that was strange for the discussions and debates prior to negotiations and to
the whole information which was embedded in the opposing factions, but in a
vivid constitutional state and further development beyond 1994 delivered the
core values which underpin the constitutional state.
I do not believe
there is an individual who can claim that this was their idea. It was the
collective result of negotiations, as well as judicial interpretation which has
delivered the idea that human dignity, equality and freedom should be the core
values which would underpin the constitutional state. I think that is something
of which we are proud of. It was a collective process and has served us well up
to now, and is in the minds of the formal scholars in our country that we will
say that in the immediate future. The idea of constitutional principals which
we all agreed to were the result of many debates. This meant that at one stage
it was prohibitive for the negotiators to talk with one another, because of the
nature of the conflict. All official contexts would sever. So it turned out
that some of the negotiators were in an aircraft together, passengers in an
airplane. Nothing prohibitive, discussions in the air while the airplane was on
route, and that was the nature. People would simply meet in the corridors and
the passages of the aircraft and talk. I remember that during the concluding
remarks, we had to come to some sort of understanding very quickly because the
aircraft was going to land. That was nature of the discussions, because there
was a desire to talk, regardless of the rules that precluded people from
talking and meeting.
Constitutionally
speaking at that juncture, we were caught in the old jargon of majority- rule
not working in Africa. Choices had to be made between the traditional Parliamentary rule as I just explained,
or a constitutional state guaranteeing a chapter on fundamental rights. Then
there was the additional issue, introduced by the National Party, of individual
versus group rights. A decision had to be taken whether South Africa would be
Federal or a Unitary State, and last but not least, whether the system of power
sharing had to be devised.
In the process, all
of us involved learnt a few important truths about negotiations and constituency such as :
§ First
and foremost it was important never to let go of your dream.
§ Never
allow the process to be derailed.
§ The
main players/actors, more than anybody else ought to believe that a solution
was possible and that they should trust one another without any reservations.
§ It
was equally important not to underestimate the constituency one was
representing and not to give them only such information as you thought they
wanted to hear. One should be open at all times and give them all the facts,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
A number of
important lessons were drawn from the South African experience:
§ There
should be a commitment to negotiate and be loyal to the constitution- making
process. I can find a number of occasions when constitutional negotiators would
never play political games with one another, they would argue, they would
disagree, they would raise their voices in private, they would confront one
another, they would disagree, they would agree to disagree, but they would
never ever play political games that would erode or impair that particular
process.
§ Negotiating
partners must have the maturity to be able to compromise. Negotiations without
compromise mean nothing. If a compromise is not part of the negotiating
process, it means you have to beat the other side into submission. That is not
what negotiation is about.
§ Negotiating
partners must be of the firm belief that obstacles can be overcome. When I
remember some of the negotiators, what amazed me and what I carry with me even
today is how they thrived on obstacles and barricades. It was an impediment
because there were simply challenges that had to be overcome. We all came to a
conclusion at that stage about what a BATNA Is, BATNA is the best alternative
to the negotiators’ agreements. If you didn’t find an agreement, what was your
alternative? To continue working on that concept.
This concept of a
constitutional state was, however, only embraced emotionally for the first time
in 1996 (before that, it was only intellectually embraced) two years after the
implementation of the idea of that concept, when the constitutional court at
first declined to certify the constitution. In other words, the Constitutional
court, two years after its establishment, asserted its independence by
declining to rectify our constitution. This decision meant more for the
independence of the Constitutional State and the idea in the minds of the supporters
of the National Party than anything the court had done before.
The reason for this,
of course, was that the National Party feared that its own history would repeat
itself, that the liberation movement, the African National Congress, would due
unto them what the National Party had done: That is that judges and prosecutors
would be appointed without consultation by the executive. In addition, some of
the judges had been advisers to the ANC during the negotiations. Therefore, the
National Party was extremely sensitive to the issue, not because they had
little faith in the judiciary’s ability, but because they were uncertain about
their independence, and this is the heart of what a Constitutional State and
the judiciary means. It does not mean that never in your life had you been part
or a member or associated or defender of a political opponent. It simply means
that the integrity was of such a nature that you would interpret the fact and
the law before you independently.
The vehicle of judicial interpretation was
also employed on many occasions to break deadlocks and reach compromises during
the negotiating process. Had this tool not been available, the negotiators would still have been at
loggerheads today. The most telling example in this respect was when the right
to life was written into the Interim Constitution. Political parties held
diametrically opposed views and no compromise was possible. The ANC on the one
hand said that you cannot have the right to life in a constitution where the
death penalty is possible, given the history of our country. You could not
reason and you could not compromise on something as fundamental as that. On the
other hand, the National Party felt that the death penalty in the Constitution
should act as a deferral to those who commit deeds of terror, crimes, …They
would not reason beyond that. Now how do you resolve that? Do you allow
constitutional deadlock to derail the whole process? What should one do?
It was agreed that the right to life without a further qualification
would be written in the constitution. That was when I in particular phrased the
concept of “constructive ambiguity”. The ANC could leave the negotiating table
and say that the right to life is fundamental and crucial. That It is written
in the constitution, and, if any interpretation is called for by the
constitutional court, the possibility of a death penalty would be ruled out”.
While the National Party could leave the negotiating table and say that there
are international precedents where the right to life can be compromised under
specific circumstances: judicial process, failed trials and committed crimes
which warrant the death penalty.
All of us at that juncture had to relinquish
our prejudices and believe that the constitutional court, that we were in the
process of creating, would deliver a judgment in our favor, and one of the
first judgments of the constitutional court was when they were to pronounce
what the right of life means. All eleven justices voiced their opinion because
it was so fundamental and it was a unanimous decision that the right to life means that
you cannot impose a death penalty.
Besides, that judgment depended on international studies by scholars,
lawyers,.. On the other hand, there was a leap of faith jumping into the future
by all negotiators. This was resolved by saying: “Well, let us leave our
prejudices here, and take the court forward and leave it to be interpreted by
the court as we move along”.
In the end, the
playing fields were established and now political parties can debate based on
how best to govern in the interests of the citizenry of South Africa.
Throughout the previous decade of South Africa’s existence, the debate had only
been about constitutional rights. Now the interests of all the people, good governance
and accountability to electorate are central. Just to make a point that people
would not argue about taxes or education or subsidies for sporting events,
sportsmen and women, pension schemes,…. That was not what mattered. What
mattered was: “What is the political dispensation? What is the constitutional
dispensation?” and when I said earlier on, we grappled with the vestiges of
Apartheid, there was a generation which grew up under the slogan: ”First
liberation and then education”, and that is how they struggled for liberation.
Now political liberation is a reality and many of them: grownups, adults, still
find themselves now to be unemployed because of the lack of literacy, and those
are the issues we are dealing with. So liberation, in terms of delivering a
constitutional state, was much more than just liberation for a section of our
community, who had been at the receiving end of the Apartheid system. It is the
liberation of a nation, and that is how one should view the formation of a
constitutional state.
I do not want to
talk much about myself, but just to illustrate the point on how I think I can
claim to represent a particular generation and a particular group of people,
contrary to what is popularly accepted and known, I am an African, and I am an
Afrikaner, and we are Africans and Afrikaners. We now have an obligation to
make our system work. Some observers are filled with skepticism when Africans
talk about human rights and democracy. However, I believe that the moment has
come for the tide in Africa- and especially in South Africa- to be turned for
once and for all, to prove that good governance based on democracy and human
rights is part of our future.
The joyous part of
the democratic process is that we are discovering, and in many ways rediscovering
our land and our peoples. There is a wealth of cultures and languages to be
respected and understood in this process of building peace and the building of
our nation.
The terrible
perceptions and fears that we had for one another are changed as we have come
to realize that the only viable route to co-existence is through mutual respect
and co-operation. We are now tackling our mutual enemies, namely poverty,
illiteracy, unemployment, etc. side- by- side in a true spirit of prioritizing
our hopes over our prejudices.
The healing process
is a long one, and the remaining journey remains fraught with danger. However,
the scars of the past will not deter us, but rather remind us of the nightmare
and further inspire us to keep on living the dream as we continuously work at
realizing a better future for all South Africans.
On the Validity of a
Constitution:
The exciting thing
about having a constitution in the making with your hands is the objective of
making it a living document. It can
only be a living document if it means something to the silent people you are
talking about. That was something which was formal in our minds: the constitution had to be a living
document. Those constitutional
fathers and mothers who gave birth to our constitution, never claimed eternal
wisdom like the constitutional fathers of America. We simply said that there
are many people who believed in this process. Therefore, this process is only
the beginning of making it a living document. It has to be interpreted and revisited.
It has to be told and taught to everybody. There is a provision signed in the
constitution, related to how you can amend the constitution, so much for the
majority for this or that particular section, but there is in addition to that
a provision which said that on a regular ongoing basis, Parliaments must
revisit the constitution, talk about it, and the electorates are invited to
make submissions on how they feel the constitution affects them or how it could
be corrected. So the idea was never to carve it in stone. It had to be rigid so
that it could not respond to the wills of the simple majority on every
occasion. It had to be fixed in that sense, but it had to be flexible since it
was not a Holy Book. It was something that people could enjoy on an ongoing
basis. Every goal as I mentioned the core values that underpin the constitution
are values that furthermore enshrine the interpretation: freedom, dignity and
equality as we go forwards.
Now to turn to your
first question: I think we were only partially successful. The first two groups
I would refer to as the political elite, those in power, and those that were
heading negotiating teams or representing people who were negotiating. They
knew what they were talking about, they were invited by outsiders, scholars,
practitioners, from across the globe…That was the moment for the professionals,
lawyers, academics, NGO groups. That was the moment they had hoped for, that
they agreed on. Somebody had left out short as a young lawyer or academic to go
into exile or had gone abroad to study. People in exile were dreaming about
returning to build a new constitution.
Academics had written books, articles and suddenly, that was the moment.
We are writing a constitution. What have you been reading and writing about all
these years? Tell us. What should the South African constitution look like? At
that juncture, we realized that there was a majority of South Africans who did
not know the difference between parliamentary sovereignty and the idea of a
constitutional state, the separation of powers between legislator and judiciary
but they were not fools. That is why I said you have to take your constituency
along and you should not underestimate them. They were not fools. They knew
whether they were employed or unemployed, whether they had the right to strike
or not, whether they had access to state resources or whether they could move
or be moved. They knew all of that, now we were only partially successful
because we tried to consult them and inform them.
I think there is
room for improvement. We consulted people through the normal political
structure. There were many constitutional conferences, debates, pamphlets,
advertisements... It was there, but it was foreign. Those who were in a
particular party were there, but they were consulted through public invitations
soliciting and asking for appeals and comments. They participated in large
numbers, in thousands, people would rise, policemen would say: “I am on duty in
this little border so many hundreds of miles away from Cape town, and I am on
duty. I am alone. I have seen your invitation, I am taking this opportunity of
writing to you”. He would express relevant or irrelevant, he would express his
hopes and fears about a constitution. It may not have been about how a
particular section should be crafted. It may only have been on a plea for a
different salary or a pension or access to electricity or telephone, but that
was his contribution.
I think the greatest
achievement of all of this was that we drafted a constitution in public,
especially in the interim phase of 1991-1994. That was we were in the blaring
lights of television camera all the time.
I acknowledge myself as not an attractive guy when I am not smiling, and
I was not smiling then. It was a serious situation, it was a matter of life or
death. A nation was born. It was so nice to hear people years after the event
telling us: It is so nice that you can finally smile and laugh. And that in
itself illustrates how the process was portrayed. It was a loving thing. It was
not a closed door and only two leaders coming out and saying: ”You have reached
an agreement, you have a constitution”, it was long nights on television
cameras to the extent that people thought I could not smile, and in my opinion,
the living proof is that, to wrap it up, you do not put a full stop after an
agreement. Whatever agreement you reach, you do not put a full stop. You
communicate, you talk, you explain. The art of democracy is persuasion. You
have a duty, an obligation to inform. The fact that people do not understand
the fine prints of a constitution does not mean that they are not wise or that
they do not know what affects their lives and what does not affect their life.
Religion VS.
Constitution: On diversity of opinion:
The Bible is in my heart, the Constitution is
in my hand. Let me tell you something: they do not mean a lot in terms of just
looking at them, but to find them in the acceptance of everybody is enormous.
The preamble ends in: ”May God protect our people”, and in Xhosa language:“ May
God Bless all our people”, and then in Afrikaner and English “God Bless South
Africa”, and the same words are also stressed in Xhosa and in Zulu.
Now to find those words and to find them
accepted, not only in the religious community, but in a language, one language,
is impossible, because there are eleven official languages. Now students and
scholars have subsequently written doctoral thesis on this Constitution, on the
religious section of the constitution and have declared they were happy with
the freedom of religion.
As I indicated
previously, we were steeped in the British tradition of Westminster. All the parliamentary sessions were
opened by a prayer, one specific prayer which was written out. The tradition of
that one prayer I am told, was that in the British parliament, church leaders
were invited to open a particular session of parliament. They would then look
at all the papers, and they would decide to make a prayer and a sermon. So if
you were in favor of the use of alcohol, and this had to do with the
distribution of alcohol or if you were opposed to that, whenever you were
invited to that session of parliament it would take an hour in prayer against
the distribution of alcohol.
So there were
external influences and one agreed prayer negotiated by all the political
parties, which did not favor a specific religion and which prayed to the
Almighty God. That was the tradition, and it was a member of Parliament that
would read the very same prayer every single prayer. It went along the lines: “Almighty God, Bless this Parliament in its
deliberation and Bless the Nation..” and that was about it. And everybody,
Christian, Jew, Muslim in that Parliament, would participate. Now when the
negotiations started, there was a request in December 1991 that the magnitude
of all the political parties in South Africa, in and outside the Parliament
could not meet without a proper meeting and a proper opening of the
proceedings. Now who would you invite to lead those proceedings? The Rabbi? The
Protestant Church? The Roman Catholic, and all the religions that practiced
religion in South Africa?. It was agreed that we would invite all of them. All
the major religious groups would be invited, and they read from their Holy
Books and prayed. All of them. One after the other were given three minutes or
so and they did. It was the first time in my life that I had been subjected to
an exercise such as that, to Listen to the variety of religious leaders. The
most prominent religious leaders in South Africa took the opportunity and were
invited.
Now you cannot go
through that process everyday. We then agreed that we would dedicate one minute
for silent prayer and meditation. In that minute you could do whatever you
wanted If you were not a believer and did not want to worship, then you would
be silent in respect for others during that one minute or you would engage with
your Almighty God. That obstacle of starting the procedure was overcome. On that moment of silent prayer and
meditation we grappled for at least five years.
Seeing everybody together, while we were
constituting for the first time in December 1991, the difficult things that
would follow, the ups and downs, the breakdowns, negotiations, elections, final
constitution… All of that resulted in an acceptance that you would be allowed
to practice your individual religion, but the State would govern everybody.
I
am always hesitant to try and speak about somebody who is not present, and also
to represent somebody and to represent people who hold a high office and are
regarded in high esteem, but I think there were few individuals who played a
major role to break down this fundamentalism or this hard line approach towards
religion, and it was Nelson Mandela himself who refused to be drawn into any
religious debate or discussion at all. Now he exclaimed publicly during his
twenty seven years in prison, he had the support of all religious communities.
The second person was Archbishop Desmund Tutu, an Anglican who had a high
office in the Anglican church, but who had always explained tolerance and
understanding towards everybody.
Desmund
Tutu and the Path Towards Reconciliation:
Some of my old friends have helped me in my
own development and growth through this. But overnight something happened which
I did not think was relevant, but that silent majority that you referred to in
particular in the African community, the religious groupings were thinking
about it in the forums, there was an enormous EVENT, in their thinking, and
that was the collapse of the Berlin wall. When I met with Desmund Tutu in 1985,
it was a big event, a big controversial story in my own family circles and
friends. There was a meeting of minds between the two of us. I had to discuss
with Desmund Tutu something very problematic. The first thing Desmund Tutu did,
was that he did not ask me, he just opened the meeting with a prayer. He said:
“Now let us pray” and we prayed: Desmund Tutu and I. That became very
significant in the area, the constituency that I had to carry with me. That private meeting with Desmund Tutu
amongst other views that I can never denounce what happened in private between
us. I could never ever think of Desmund Tutu again as a terrorist, as somebody
who advocates centers against the country, as a dishonest man, as someone who
thrives in conflict. This was a tremendous communion, even up to now. When
Desmund Tutu left the church in 1996, there was a public event in Capetown,
after 11 years of that first meeting. There were many important people present,
but Desmund Tutu asked me to speak on that occasion, and it was based on that
first encounter.
What I am saying is that any particular event,
any external event can change the whole scenario and the relationship between
individuals. Which was not important, suddenly becoming extremely important.
I can talk about this for a really long time,
but let me tell you something: I appeared in front of the truth and
reconciliation commission, and there was an article written about that
particular day, and the article concludes: Women were looking down at the open
space between where the witnesses had participated, where the audience had sat
and where the commissioners were lined up. The only thing they could see was
Wessels and Tutu embracing in the open space.
1
Member
of the South African Human Rights Commission. Deputy chairman of the
Constitutional Assembly between May 1994 and December 1996.
2 Referring to the Press
Conference in solidarity with Marwan Barghouti’ held the same day.
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